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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 8, 2010 (11:54 PM)
Simple way to understand.

Nabi (genetic trait) it's FAMILY member only no one else.

Rasul (general) anyone can be.
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 8, 2010 (11:55 PM)
Therefore,

All Nabi is a Rasul but not all Rasul is a Nabi.

Another example.

All Police is a human being but not all human being is a Police.
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 8, 2010 (11:58 PM)
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If you said.

All Rasul is a Nabi but not all Nabi is a Rasul..it became weird..like this.

All Human being is a Police but not all Police is a human being?
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 8, 2010 (11:58 PM)
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shock where do u get that from?
that sentences
quranic verse?
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (12:06 AM)
shock where do u get that from?
that sentences
quranic verse?

It's not a Quranic sentence,it's a conclusion of the Quranic verse from my understanding.

Naby is a genetic trait (29:27, 57:26)
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (2:48 PM)
If you said.

All Rasul is a Nabi but not all Nabi is a Rasul..it became weird..like this.

All Human being is a Police but not all Police is a human being?


Huh?? I thought that it supposed to be all rasul can be nabi but not all nabi can be rasul?
First Allah make them Nabi then make them Rasul right ?
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (2:52 PM)
Anis, you're somewhat right.

All Rasuls are Nabis while not all Nabis are Rasuls.

We only know 25 Rasuls while there are thousands of Nabis out there. Why thousands?

Because Nabis receive wahyus from Allah for themselves alone, while Rasuls receive wahyus to be conveyed to the masses.

However, there will not be any more Rasuls or Nabis since Nabi Muhammad since he was the Seal of the Prophets (Nabis).
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (2:58 PM)
1. So what you mean women can wear tight cloth and don't wear scarf and they can pray while they have "haid" so the are praying with najis is considered Ok ? like that...


No.They are encourage to wear modest cloth.But about the "hijab" thing.Quran never force women to wear it,but look at Islamic country such as Saudi Arabia,they force women to wear hijab,which is wrong according to Quran.

So you are wearing gold ?

you can't make a judgement by just 1 ayah from the qur'an.


Yes I can.

If you say Gold is Haram,therefore bring ur evidence/reason why Gold is Haram for men.

So you tak sunat ar ?

Sunat is for forbidding our self from get aaa.... *kemaluan* get bobba which the infront of the skin got najis and we'll be cleaning it by throw it away...and which other people that doesn't kena sunat would get Za_ar bobba..


Read verse 32:7

Also bring Quranic evidence that Sunat is wajib.


why my mother, my sister and my saudara wear hijab without force?
If they wanted to wear it without force...ok good..

But the thing I said was...Women cannot be forced to wear hijab..like in Country such as Saudi They FORCING women to wear it.


Got force for their own good le..
Same like when parents ask you to study, it's for your own good.
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (3:00 PM)
Salam.

In this post I will show you nowdays Muslim behaviour that contradict the Quranic teaching.
You can deny it,but we all know this is the truth.

In comparing the teachings of Islam as derived from the Book of God to the practices taught and enforced by the popular Sunni and Shia faiths (1.2 Bn followers), we find that the list is quite extensive, with some of the highlights as follows:

* In Islam, the requirement to be a Muslim is to simply accept and live according to the ‘Straight Path’ (6:151^153) Vs. the Sunni or Shia 5-pillars which come from unauthorized books…

* In Islam, abolishing Slavery is taught to be an act of righteousness (90:12-13), Vs. Sunni and Shia teachings which encourages slavery under war…

* In Islam, women are never forbidden from praying or fasting during Menstruation (2:222), nor is there a specific dress code (i.e. the Headscarf) imposed on them beyond modesty, Vs. the Sunni and Shia which teach the undermining of women and forcing them to cover their hair and avoid praying or fasting at certain times...

* In Islam, a man or women may leave a Will, after settlement of debt (4:12), Vs. Sunnis who refuse to accept wills if there are any direct descendants...

* In Islam, Monogamy is the basis for normal relationships, while polygamy is only allowed in cases involving marrying the mothers of orphans under the man’s guardianship (4:3), Vs. Sunnis where a man may be a polygamist simply if he can afford to, and Shia which allow bobba for pleasure (Mut’a)...

* In Islam, Divorce is enforceable only after a two-phase period, and it may be made nullified if the couple reconcile before the end of this period (65:1, 65:4), Vs. Sunni teachings that destroy families by allowing a divorce to occur on the spot with no waiting period and no nullification...

* In Islam, Thieves do not have their hands cut-off, but are made to worbobbail they return that which is stolen (12:76), Vs. Sunni and Shia teachings which brutally amputate the hands causing disability...

* In Islam, no one is allowed to be killed or Stoned for adultery (24:2), Vs. Sunni and Shia laws of stoning married adulterers to death...

* In Islam, absolute Freedom of Faith is allowed (2:256, 10:99; 18:29; 88:21-22), Vs. Sunni and Shia requiring apostates to be killed and rejecting the practice of other faiths...

* In Islam, people are acknowledged as being diverse and each is to be respected for his/her level of spiritual growth. A Submitter ‘Muslim’ must work to attain the status of Faithful ‘Mumin’ (49:14), Vs. Sunni and Shia teachings that all followers of their religion must think, act, and even look the same (cult syndrome)...

* In Islam, War can only be declared in cases of self-defence - no offensives (2:190), Vs. Sunni and Shia teachings allowing raids and attacks on any people who are considered non-Muslim by their standards...

* In Islam, Pilgrimage is a centre for gathering of nations and for all to witness the benefits of being together (22:27-28), Vs. Sunni and Shia bringing in polytheistic rituals and superstition (touching of black stone, circling 7 times, etc..)...

* In Islam, a Year is a luni-solar count made of 365-days (17:12, 9:36), with all the seasons fitting-in-place Vs. Sunnis teaching it to be a lunar one based on 354 days which creates confusion of seasons and time…

* In Islam, males and females are not required to be Circumcised (32:7), Vs. Sunni and Shia teachings requiring all males to be circumcised and females in some cases...

* In Islam, music, statues, gold and silk are all Lawful(7:32^33, 16:116), Vs. Sunni beliefs forbidding silk & gold for men, and forbidding music & statues for all...

* In Islam, rule of Government is under the constitution of the Qur'an through consultation and free-speech (5:48, 42:38). Vs. Sunni teachings which allow the rise of dictators or monarchs, and Shia teachings which uphold self-appointed religious leaders based on genealogy.

Therefore, the clearest difference is that Islam is a monotheistic, clear, consistent, dynamic, progressive, balanced system...a system that eliminates conjectures, hearsay, fairy tales and contradictions...therefore it eliminates hardship, confusion, chaos, and division. It is a system which puts more accent on the usage of intellect, reason, pondering over God, His Creation, meaning of life, pondering over everything...While the sects represent superstition, unfair treatment for non-cult members, inequality of the bobbaes, oppression of human rights, inability to contribute to human progress, amputations or physical violence, regression of ideas and thoughts to primitive levels of barbarism, and most importantly setting-up partners with the One True God and thus promoting polytheism.


Shock said that Sunni does this and that, but why I got no see one ? I think never..
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RE: Islam(nowdays) vs Quran.
Feb 9, 2010 (7:37 PM)
Shock said that Sunni does this and that, but why I got no see one ? I think never..
I never said Sunnis alone,Syiah also included.

Beside the reason you never seen it,because you live in Malaysia..Not so strict.

But if you live in Saudi or Iraq,Iran,Afghan..You know what I mean.